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A discussion on where Traditional Turkish Angoras come from... by Harvey Harrison
Instead of using
Ankara cats to verify the
authenticity of the American
Angora she does the
opposite, with the result
that the cat that is the
foundation for the breed
is now not even a Turkish
Angora . It is a Cyprus
cat! THIS
IS REVERSE LOGIC. She
does not realize what a fool
she is making of herself.
But we have to
contact some heavyweight
people in order to stop this
nonsense.
The posting is as
follows..-
"""Harvey
Harrison
"In regard to
the American Angora
being out crossed to
breeds such as the
Siamese to reduce
deafness I realize now
that this may be the
case and that the
Siamese signature and
others may have not been
mentioned in L Lyons'
results. In the same
way and for unknown
reasons the Egyptian Mau
and Tunisian street cat
stated separately in the
2008 Report are lumped
together in the 2012
Report as the American
Turkish Angora. This
gives the impression of
a pure-bred cat which it
is not. This TA grouping
is a complex mishmash of
many breeds. L Lyons
2012 report loses all
authenticity when she
states in her website
designed to assist
people who wish to
submit samples for the
study that ".-
Step 2 - Breed Ancestry is a secondary matching process that compares your cat to the well-defined, registered cat breed populations of the USA. A true random bred cat WILL NOT match to specific breeds and low match probabilities will not be reported. If your cat is a true direct cross with a breed, having a true breed parent or grand-parent, this test can detect this breed genetic contribution in your cat (Therefore you could submit a 100 samples of cats from the Ankara Zoo and they would not be identified as turkish Angoras). https:// In other words the quite different samples from the Ankara Zoo or Turkey will not be identified as a Turkish Angoras because L Lyons presumes that the American CFA and TICA registered TA is the true original one. This violates one of the principal rules of science. When comparing the properties of 2 items whether chemicals, metals, or animals, one has to first prove that the items are genuine examples and not something else, In all cat societies the principal requirement is that the TA be proven to have originated in the Ankara Zoo. Therefore in the 2012 Study step one must be to compare American TAs to Ankara Zoo TAs to verify their authenticity. This was not done. In fact the opposite was done. The fake American TAs were used to verify Turkish and Ankara Zoo cats which were consequently declared as CYPRUS cats. This would be funny if it were not so stupid and a disgrace to science."
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